I am considering purchasing a Faema E91 Diplomat 3 Group espresso machine to be used in a Coffee shop. I have been told it is about 7yrs old and has had a full service though I have no proof of that. The usage on each group is roughly grp1 - , grp2 - , grp3 - verified. It looks to be a very high quality product with no flaws at all - that I can see apart from a missing decal.
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I am considering purchasing a Faema E91 Diplomat 3 Group espresso machine to be used in a Coffee shop. I have been told it is about 7yrs old and has had a full service though I have no proof of that.
The usage on each group is roughly grp1 - , grp2 - , grp3 - verified. It looks to be a very high quality product with no flaws at all - that I can see apart from a missing decal. If everything is working at time of purchase - what's the most expensive thing that could stop working? Is that bad or good? I am also considering purchasing 2 heavily used Faema grinders -- they look exactly like these Click Here www.
I expect to replace the grinders as a matter of course. Thank you very much for the information. From what I have seen on line, this is a fair price -- maybe even a good deal. Posted February 15, link. Posted February 14, link I have no specific knowledge of that machine or grinder in terms of the value of any of the machines, etc, but I have some passing familiarity of both. Not enough to provide specifics though. Just some general info: That group count is low.
Especially for a 3 group. Very low. As though they're a month or two old in a busy location. Sometimes counters can be rigged, or have just rolled over enough even if they're not digital to reset at least once. That could be a LOT higher than that if that's the case, and assuming the rollover is at The counters are really for maintenance purposes, not for life-use purposes.
There's virtually no 3 group that ISN'T a very high quality product, they're industrial machines. Faema makes excellent commercial HX machines, no question. But parts DO fail. Pumps, flow meters, electronic control panels are all parts that can fail and aren't overwhelmingly cheap to replace Same goes for heating elements.
Group seals age and fail, that could require maintenance sooner than later. The big thing to worry about is the maintenance schedule it was maintained on. If they had good techs who monitored the water, took care of descaling on a regular cycle, etc, all is fine. A year of storage shouldn't hurt Used commercial gear is a common trade As for grinders, so long as they work, they should be fine.
Idle time certainly doesn't hurt them, just be sure to give them a thorough cleaning in the burr chamber if they're gunky looking. I'd almost certainly replace the burrs immediately if buying used, if I didn't know when they'd last been replaced. That's just a standard wearable part. Otherwise, for a direct drive grinder, the doser levers are cheap fixes, the only truly expensive thing that can break is a stripped burr carrier or a burnt out motor or starter cap.
Otherwise, if it runs, it runs. Posted February 15, link I'd say that's a pretty good deal, barring significant abuse or lack of maintenance! The paint on mine looks like it had been through a tornado but it runs fine. The used one in the store looked used but not abused. This is the difference between private party sales and store sales.
In a business, you need a service company standing beside you to keep you going when there are problems. I advise you to go work in a coffee shop for at least 6 months to learn just what it is that you are intending to get into.
There is a HIGH rate of failure in food service startups and it sounds like you are starting a coffee store from scratch. This is a tough thing to do, esp where you are located, lots of GOOD competition for sure.
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Considering used Faema E91 Diplomat Recommendations for buyers and upgraders from the site's members. Search Advanced search. It is the 2 grouphead version with manual dosing only 1 button per head , no display. The one I see for sale is quite cheap, but seller says the pump is not working. I have been trying to find some part list or schematic with no luck, so I am bit worrying if the pump is somewhat special to replace reason to sell it cheap. Or if there can be some other flaw?
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